Uch. So, I’ve complained about Wikipedia and their…unique…attitude about sourcing in the past. Other people did Zico and P.O a few years go, and then last year someone managed to get a Park Kyung page up.
I got asked by someone on Wikipedia to do a Bastarz page–at first, I was like, Do we really need that? but she pointed out that most other group sub-units have their own page, so I went ahead and did it with her guidance. Recently someone got a Taeil page up, and I was like, I should stop being defeatist about this, so I did U-Kwon, which went OK.
And then I decided I should give Jaehyo or B-Bomb a shot. B-Bomb’s written more songs, but the only one to chart was “Tightly,” which is a Bastarz song. Jaehyo, in contrast, has done more variety appearances…
…except of course Wikipedia is now cracking down on variety appearances. This is the problem with Wikipedia: They’re like overly-permissive parents who periodically get born again–first they let you do everything, and then all of a sudden they put the hammer down, and you can’t do anything. For example, they’ve decided that AllKPop and Soompi are unreliable, so now if you use those as sources the citation gets stripped out…of an article with, like, 30 or 40 AllKPop and Soompi citations. (I don’t know what’s going to happen when they realize that the Korean source material isn’t any better.) Thanks to the new policy, they pulled Taeil’s filmography altogether, which isn’t really appropriate under their own guidelines. I let that slide since he has a pretty robust discography, but I did reinstate Zico and P.O’s stints on The Show after they were yanked, because those were not any kind of one-off.
Anyway, I managed to get Jaehyo up (immediately prompting someone on Tumblr to whine about B-Bomb not having a page–I don’t see you helping, do I?), but because I was a good little camper about not citing Jaehyo’s every last appearance on everything, ever, and because the person who cleared it pulled out some of the things I did put in, there’s a notability challenge on it.
Since basically everything on that page is the desired independent secondary source that offers more than a trivial mention of the subject, I can’t really decide what to do. Given that every time Jaehyo says or posts something that is vaguely entertaining, there are like five lazy Korean press stories about it, I’m tempted to massively over-cite everything (just listing every source for his Fishing News appearance would probably add
10 make that dozens of footnotes), but I’m not sure if that would be considered OK or deeply obnoxious. Part of me wants to wait until the next thing Jaehyo does and then add back in some of the things that were stripped out, but it might get pulled down before then.
ETA: I kind of split the difference, bulking up the Fishing News citations–I’ll wait on the rest. The problem is that Jaehyo is known in the Korean press as basically a social media personality–so he posts about wanting to buy homemade kimchi from fans, and they write articles about it. But that doesn’t really fit into any of Wikipedia’s little boxes….
EATA: I rallied today and bulked out the rest–we’ll see if this works. It annoys me because they’re SO inconsistent (I guess I’m too used to a professional environment, where there’s more of a focus on efficiency). If you look at the discussion I linked to above, they get all up in arms about cameo appearances, which OF COURSE should not be included!!!…and then you look at the filmography for some Western model, and it’s all cameo appearances. I’m not arguing that Jaehyo’s cured cancer or anything, but he IS a big celebrity in Korea and often gets press coverage for the littlest things. I mean, if every last fucking Kardashian gets a page….
…and of course, the answer is no! Adding more citations doesn’t make for notability, even though more citations is exactly what was requested! Well, I’m done with this for now, I don’t want it to turn into a pissing match–we will leave it up to the next slob who comes along.